Hey, there!  Welcome to Episode 235!

Today, we have two hours and forty-five minutes of  quality comic book chit-chat for you!  Jeff reads his twitter interview with the talented and generous Gisele LaGace of Menage a 3, conducted back in July; Graeme gives us the 411 on the 212 with his NYCC report, including our discussion of Marvel and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Convention; and we go heavy on the spoilers (so beware!) in our discussions about the third issues of Metal and Mister Miracle by Scott Snyder and Greg Capullo and Tom King and Mitch Gerards, respectively, as well as the conclusion of the War of Jokes and Riddles in Batman.

Also!  Golden Kamuy! Delicious in Dungeon!  The conclusion [?] of Rocket by Al Ewing and Adam Gorham! The Stand by Stephen King!  And a discussion about terrible people, art, and the art of terrible people.  We reference two or three different articles in the course of that last talk.  This is one of them.  (I couldn’t find the rest, though I really did try.)

NEXT WEEK: Baxter Building Ep. 34! Come read Fantastic Four issues #304-313 with us!!

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Even if it hadn’t been the first book to arrive at the library, Before Watchmen: Minutemen/Silk Spectre would have been the place to start on this revisit. (Well, part-revisit, as I said before.) The two series collected in the hardcover are, chronologically, the earliest in the expanded Watchmen timeline; this, in theory, is where it starts (There are flashbacks to earlier elements throughout other stories, and the latter mini-additions to Before Watchmen — the Moloch mini and Dollar Bill oneshot — take place earlier, but we’ll get to all of them later).

Of course, it’s not where it starts, really, and that’s perhaps where I should start: A lot of Darwyn Cooke’s Minutemen isn’t just prequel or prologue, it’s an outright retcon — Cooke takes the characters as established — or, more properly, briefly sketched — by Moore and Gibbons — and, in many cases, significantly rewrites them by expanding upon them, transforming in the process from Moore’s obsessions and recurring themes to Cooke’s. (One of said changes: Women have a far less passive role in Minutemen, which leads to a significant shift in the portrayal of Sally Jupiter.) It’s clear from the very beginning that this isn’t Cooke trying to recreate Watchmen in any appreciable way, and especially not formally — everything about Minutemen feels far closer to Cooke’s DC: The New Frontier than the work it’s actually building off, from layouts, pacing and dialogue to, most importantly, morality.

Watchmen is, to me, an essentially amoral book — I’m sure many would disagree (including Jeff of this very parish), but Moore seemed to at least be hinting at that in the interview that made up the 2003 Extraordinary Works of Alan Moore book when he said, “I didn’t want to make any character the one who’s right, the one whose viewpoint is the right viewpoint, the one who’s the hero, the one who the readers are supposed to identify with, because that’s not how life is… it’s up to the reader to formulate their own response to the world — sort of — and not be told what to do by a super-hero or a political leader or a comic-book writer for that matter.”

Cooke strikes me as a creator who is incapable of producing such a thing, however — arguably, he attempted with the Parker books, but those are adaptations and even so, had a particular morality to them — and certainly isn’t even trying with Minutemen; the book is told from Hollis’ point of view as he writes Under the Hood, although Cooke’s narrative voice doesn’t match Moore’s excerpts of the book at all, and is shot through with the need to do the right thing that drove [Cooke’s version of] Hollis. Moreover, that morality infects almost everyone else in the book, in ways that are at odds with Moore’s Watchmen writing; watching the Comedian try to talk Sally Jupiter out of killing someone because of the emotional cost she’ll pay after feels almost quaint, and out of character considering everything else surrounding the characters as established by Moore.

It’s also out of character considering other Before Watchmen books, but let’s leave that ahead of us for now.

I said, “almost everyone else” purposefully; while characters like Silhouette, Dollar Bill and even the Comedian get some redemption in Cooke’s hands, Hooded Justice gets just the opposite, in the name of a feint at the end of the story. Building off the costume’s noose gimmick, he’s shown indulging in what appears to be non-consentual BDSM midway through the story in service of a plot that sees Hollis — and the reader — become convinced that he’s actually the serial killer that the heroes have been hunting for throughout the entire series. It leads to Hollis killing Hooded Justice, only to be told by the Comedian afterwards that the evidence was faked in an attempt to draw out the hero who had otherwise gone into hiding.

It’s a heavy-handed development — although perhaps not as much as when the mysterious new hero who helps the team prevents Japanese terrorists from causing nuclear apocalypse in New York City turns out to be Japanese because, hey, it’s bad to generalize an entire race of people, which also happens. It’s also an ugly and unnecessary one that accomplishes nothing beyond an ugly “Gotcha!” — the reveal happens after Hollis had retired and completed writing Under the Hood, so it’s not even as if it was the motivating factor for either event. Instead, it just demonstrates, not for the first time, how fallible the heroes in the book turned out to be.

(When talking with Jeff about this book, earlier, he said that he remembered that the Hooded Justice plot had drawn people to accuse Minutemen of being homophobic; I don’t think that’s the case — the treatment of Silhouette and her lover throughout would act as an argument against that, I think — but, especially if the complaints came before the final reveal, it’s certainly a thread that invites criticism for its ugliness and the manner in which it seems Hooded Justice is somehow uglier than every other character in the storyline.)

(A second aside, for a second; Hooded Justice’s treatment in this book is curiously reminiscent of Rorschach in the original Watchmen, and I can’t work out if that’s intentional or not, and whether or not Cooke was trying to hint that Hooded Justice was similarly mentally impaired. That, too, would be likely to draw criticism if it were the case.)

Overall, Minutemen feels like a warmer book to me than Watchmen — and than the other Before Watchmen series, for that matter, Silk Spectre aside — although that might simply be because I’m more personally attuned to Darwyn Cooke’s grouchy sentimentality than Moore’s curmudgeonly hippieness of the 1980s. As the first part of this whole expansive reading project, it worked well for me; I felt like I had an emotional “in” to the world that had been missing before, and I found myself wanting to read more. Which, considering the next thing I read was Silk Spectre, turned out to be a good thing.

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As I’ve complained about many times on the podcast, I’ve long been of the opinion that Watchmen isn’t for me. Or, at least, it’s something that I’ve read a number of times and it’s left me cold each time, for different reasons. I get that it’s formally brilliant, but I’ve never really found an emotional core to grab onto as a reader; the hand of the author felt all too visible, and that just stopped me short.

Concerns for my lack of intellectual depth aside — oh, it only seems like I’m joking — this has never really been a problem for me. Sure, when I was 15 or so, I pretended that I was really, really into Watchmen, because that’s what you do when you’re 15: you tell everyone, even yourself, that you like stories that everyone else agrees are important and weighty and telling great truths, despite how you actually feel. Eventually, though, I got over my anxiety and moved on, albeit occasionally returning to see if perhaps I’d changed enough to get something from it now, or now, or now. (Spoiler: Not yet.)

With Doomsday Clock on the horizon, I decided that it was time for one of those periodic re-reads. The book is right there on my shelf — the plus (maybe) side of DC re-issuing it so often is that I’ve been sent no less than three different editions through the years; the one I still have is, I think, the international trade, the one without the smiley face cover because of rights issues (ironically) — so it takes very little effort to revisit it before Geoff Johns and Gary Frank do that thing they do. Which might explain why I decided to make it harder on myself by including Before Watchmen in the re-read.

Technically, including Before Watchmen meant that it wasn’t actually a re-read, per se; I hadn’t made it through all of the 2012 prequels before, because my frame of mind was honestly life is too short to read Brian Azzarello’s Rorschach. Not for me, the principled stand of calling everyone who worked on the books scabs! I just didn’t like the books themselves, and so they remained unfinished. But, I figured, if I was going to go back to Watchmen before Doomsday Clock, why not include DC’s other attempt to stripmine the original book?

Part of my curiosity about Before Watchmen was just that: Morbid curiosity about the comics, their quality and how they’d not only fit together with the original Watchmen, but also Doomsday Clock (if at all; I have no idea if anything from Before Watchmen will apply to Doomsday Clock). But it was also a strange compulsion to treat Before Watchmen more legitimately — arguably more legitimately than it deserves — and accept it as part of the same story as Watchmen, and to read them in something resembling chronological order as “one story,” even if that’s not how they were originally intended.

And so, that’s what I’m going to do. Over the next few weeks, I’m going to work my way through Before Watchmen, and then Watchmen itself, and I’m going to share the experience here. Will I finally have reached a point where Watchmen works for me? (It’s something I am genuinely curious about, considering how much older I am now compared with previous readings, and also the generally apocalyptic world in which we’re living today.) Will Before Watchmen have any gems hidden inside? Will the whole experience prove so distasteful that I’m put off Doomsday Clock before it’s even started?

Let’s find out together. The end is nigh, but not nigh enough, just yet.

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Hey, everyone!  Show notes are so short as to be little more than an intro to the episode, and on top of that I wanted to give you the same warning I gave at the beginning of the episode (albeit a little more coherent)—Graeme and I have made it a point since the election to make this podcast much less about the politics and much more about the comics, because we know a lot of people who would prefer/need a place they can escape to and not have to deal with all of that.  However, in this episode, because I’ve had a lot of my plate and on my mind, that unspoken agreement gets breached in a pretty big way. For a good chunk of the episode, we talk about empathy, Nazis, communication, and whether or not fictional narratives mostly help create empathy, or reinforce solipsism.  (not that I was smart enough to put it like that at the time, damn it!)

I mean, don’t worry, we also discuss Marvel Legacy #1, Harley Quinn: A Celebration of 25 Years, the movie IT and the novel The Stand, Audobon, On The Wings of the World by Fabien Grolleau and Jérémie Royer,  Rocket #5 by Al Ewing and Adam Gorham, Kamandi Challenge #9 by Tom King and Kevin Eastman and Freddie Williams II, and much, much more.

Like I say at the end of the episode, I’m sure when we reconvene (in two weeks!), I will be back to babbling about Hookjaw, but this episode…not nearly as much.  Forewarned is four-armed, as the Tharks used to say. And nonetheless, we hope you enjoy the episode.

NEXT WEEK: NYCC for Graeme!  Some relaxing maze books for Jeff! Join us in two weeks for another Wait, What?

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Previously on Baxter Building: The John Byrne era is over, with the writer/artist who, let’s be honest, left his stamp on the series more than anyone else aside from Lee and Kirby, departing after five years mid-storyline. In his place, we got a couple of fill-in issues leading up to what should be a big deal: two big anniversary issues within six months of each other. Will they live up to the occasion? Spoilers: No.

0:00:00-0:05:34: A punchy opening — for some reason, Jeff and I talked for an hour and a half before recording, don’t ask me why — leads us into introducing the issues we’re covering this episode: Fantastic Four #296-303. Or, as Jeff puts it, the issues in which “a whole bunch of people [are] trying to wrestle with where Byrne was steering the work, and trying to make it work, and frankly just not being able to fucking do so.” On the plus side: these issues are also kind of terrible. Wait, did I say plus side…?

0:05:35-0:30:57: We open with the 25th anniversary issue of the series, Fantastic Four #296, which is handled with all the sensitivity and appropriateness it deserves — which is to say, almost none. Jeff and I talk about Jim Shooter’s plotting skills, whether or not Stan Lee is Reed Richards (and, if so, who does that make Sue?), John Byrne’s original plot for the issue before he was fired, and the perils of jam issues when so many artists are involved in general. All this, plus the secret origins of Frank Miller’s Sin City art style, too!

0:30:58-0:41:58: FF #297 introduces a short-lived new regular creative team of Roger Stern, John Buscema and Sal Buscema, and somehow, the combination is far less than the sum of its parts. Still, we do get to talk about the production schedule of the book, the bad advice of Reed Richards, the subtext of the issue’s villains — well, as Jeff reads it, anyway — and Roger Stern’s abandoned plan for Benjamin J. Grimm.

0:41:59-0:47:37: In the immortal words of Mr. Jefferson P. Lester, Fantastic Four #298 is “also dull as fuck.” He’s not wrong; the conclusion of the two-parter begun in the previous issue, the highlight is probably the sight of a villain trying to choke himself to death. (See above.) We end up talking about the fact that the series can’t allow Ben Grimm to evolve emotionally any more, and the possible reasons for that beyond a misguided attempt to make the book “grittier,” because the late 1980s weren’t a kind time for those unimpressed by anti-heroes.

0:47:38-0:54:51:
You know who the hero of FF #299 is? She-Hulk. You know who’s about to entirely disappear from the series without explanation? I’ll give you a clue: She’s seven-feet tell and bright green. As a swan song, this is kind of a good issue and offers what could be closure for Grumpy Ben Grimm™ if he was allowed to have closure. Meanwhile, the rest of the Fantastic Four continue to be the worst, She-Hulk and Wyatt Wingfoot explain the downside of the First Family’s closeness and you will really wish Jeff was writing the ongoing adventures of 1986’s Johnny Storm.

0:54:52-1:01:39: There are a few things that Jeff and I really enjoy about Fantastic Four #300 — Doctor Doom’s response to Johnny and Alicia’s wedding, for one thing, as well as the Yancy Street Gang’s method of therapy and the fact that even the Puppet Master isn’t a complete dick, not to mention the single greatest Franklin Richards drawing ever — but for those looking forward to the kind of anniversary bonanza that celebrates the history of the comic and makes you feel excited for what lies ahead… yeah. Maybe not. Still, at least John Buscema has the chance to draw random nobodies as wedding guests.

1:01:40-1:09:27: Say what you like about FF #301, but you can’t deny that the Mad Thinker knows how to exit a conversation. (He’s also not a kid killer, so there’s that.) After Jeff comes up with the best description of Tom DeFalco and Paul Ryan’s upcoming Fantastic Four run — “Dad Squared” — we talk about the drawbacks of the Wizard’s plan and discuss even more evidence that Johnny Storm might actually be even more “the worst” than Reed Richards. What in the world is happening?!?

1:09:28-1:31:15: The final issue of Roger Stern’s run — although Fantastic Four #302, like the last issue, is only plotted by Stern and scripted by Tom DeFalco — brings discussion of Johnny Storm’s new catchphrase and name, as well as the dumbest plot to avoid nuclear apocalypse ever, and Reed and Franklin’s awkward father/son talk. Also, Jeff gets into a fugue state about Alicia’s desires and I make a pun so bad that it temporarily stops Mr. Lester in his tracks. Success!


1:31:16-1:41:00: Limping towards the finish line, FF #303 brings Roy Thomas back, but it’s Thundra’s return that gets Jeff Lester excited. The same can’t be said about the Thing, who’s continuing to dominate the series just months after returning, with Thomas offering up even more potential closure for the character that manages to contradict everything that the series had been claiming to this point. But this is perhaps better, so… yay… ish…?

1:41:01-end: Exhausted by bad comics, we talk about whether or not the high number of shitty Fantastic Four comics means that the Fantastic Four is a shitty concept, and end up in a food analogy that just made me hungry while editing the episode. Are there three sides to a successful FF story, and will we remember to use this metric on future runs? The answer to one of those questions is no. As everything gets wrapped up, we lay out the next batch of issues we’re going to cover — FF #s 304-313 — and remind you to visit the Twitter, Tumblr and Patreon, as usual. As with every episode, thank you for listening and thank you for reading through these show notes. Next time, I promise, will be more fun. It’s Englehart time!

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For my birthday this year, my family was kind enough to take me to a couple hotspots in Hampton, Virginia. First, the relatively new Oozlefinch Craft Brewery; then longtime comic store Benders Books. Benders is one of those good old-fashioned stuff-on-top-of-stuff-on-top-of-stuff comic stores, the kind that have quite rightfully gone out of fashion in favor of clean, slick design; welcoming, clear aisles; few-if-any store cats; and an organizational system that makes sense to people who just kinda want to buy a book or something. It is a delightful throwback to the comic stores of my youth, where it seemed like any book could maybe be uncovered if you just knew which six longboxes to shift over.

Because we hit the brewery first, it seemed like a really good idea to go longbox diving for random things I vaguely remember that are not available digitally, not least because I could then write posts about them here. This is one of them.

I was originally going to start somewhere else, but then Graeme randomly posted about this series of Marvel event books over on the tumblr, so I decided to swerve to keep up.

THE BOOK: According to the cover, it’s Marvels Comics Group Codename: X-Men #1. According to the indicia, it’s Marvels Comics: X-Men #1.

THE CREATORS: Written by Mark Millar, art by Sean Phillips & Duncan Fegredo (?!?!), colors by Kevin Somers.

THE CONCEPT: In 2000, Marvel decided it might be a fun idea to publish six one-shots that were comics from within the Marvel Universe. I have no idea why they decided this, but I kinda have a suspicion that it’s in some way a dry-run for the Ultimate line, which it predates on the shelves by about half a year. (That’s for Ultimate Spider-Man. The Ultimate X-Men book, which Millar would also write, is still almost a year away.) There’s that same vibe of probing to find a way to make a concept new and old, of trying to put fierce hats on childish heads, and so on.

Anyway, this is an especially weird book because, theoretically, everyone in-universe at Marvel hates and/or fears the X-Men. (Grant Morrison’s hip-subculture take is also still in the future when this hits shelves.) So there are a few ways that the real-world creators working on it could play this. One is as a sympathetic look from the point of view of an oppressed minority–maybe something in a mock counter-culture alt-comix style. Another is to write it carefully, subtly, as a critique of prejudice under the guise of propaganda.

OR you could hand it to Mark Millar.

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0:00-2:01:14:  Greetings! We are talking face-to-face in Portland after eating at the very delicious Farmhouse in San Francisco.  Jeff, despite what Graeme insists, is not drunk. (Just a little tipsy.)  So in in the interest of getting this episode up without any more delay, I’m going to take a pass on the regular show notes, and just tell you:
  • This podcast is just a little over two hours, which is pretty amazing because we’d hung out all day talking and figured we’d have maybe 45 minutes left in us, tops;
  • Jeff is not drunk;
  • and a quick pile of topics discussed: how we attend cons; some of the stuff Jeff bought at Cosmic Monkey before the show; Bill Mantlo’s Micronauts; print vs. digital; Tom King’s interview on the Slate working podcast; Mister Miracle #2; Mark Gruenwald’s Squadron Supreme; our ongoing obsession with Defenders; the new Captain Phasma comic; Jaws on the big screen, and more!
And that’s it!  Look for us on  Stitcher! Itunes! Twitter together and separately: Graeme and Jeff! MattTumblr,  and  on Patreon where a wonderful group of people make this all possible, including the kind crew at American Ninth Art Studios and Empress Audrey, Queen of the Galaxy, to whom we are especially grateful for their continuing support of this podcast.
TWO WEEKS FROM NOW: Baxter Building A.B. (after Byrne).  Issues #296-302!  Read ’em and weep (with us)!
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0:00-10:43: Greetings! For the third time or so?! A lot of problems we talk about briefly and then move right into the horrifying heat wave that moved through San Francisco, Graeme’s sympathy (or lack thereof), Jeff’s grumpiness (and hyper-abundance thereof), and more.
10:43-39:49:  But let’s move on to comic book-related stuff, if your definition of such things is generous enough to include the Imax screenings of The Inhumans and even more carping about The Defenders TV show.  (Yes, really!)
39:49-59:53: Moving from that and the reaction to our Star Brand readthrough, Jeff wants to wax rhapsodic about the sublime My Pretty Vampire by Katie Skelly, and the absurd Werewolf by Night Omnibus by Gerry Conway and Mike Ploog (at least at the point Jeff is at, anyway).  But perhaps by discussing the two subjects too closely together, Jeff runs the risk of sounding like he’s doing the whole “these indy creators are terrific, but think how great they could be if only they were toiling away with no rights for corporate owned IP!”  (Which is not where he meant to go with that, at all.)  Also discussed:  Dastardly & Muttley #1, the end of Secret Empire, and the very delightful Spider-Gwen #23 by Hannah Blumenreich and Jordan Gibson.
59:53-1:26:41: Speaking of idiosyncratic Marvel titles, Graeme, the recommendation of Jeff and others, went and checked out the most recent issues of The Unbelievable Gwenpool by Christopher Hastings and Gurihiru.  And he’s got some questions for Jeff, first and foremost is: “why do you like this?”  Ulp.  Also discussed:  Gwenpool, Animal Man, The Punisher, plus a bit at the end about Spy Seal.
1:26:41-02:02:23: And then it’s time for a lively round of Graeme Has A Thought Experiment (That Jeff Reacts To Like It’s A Trap)!  This time out:  “How would you feel if 2000 A.D. gave Halo Jones to someone else?”  Discussed:  Marvelman/Miracleman, Watchmen, Doomsday Clock, Omega The Unknown, the late capitalism comfort matrix, and more.
2:02:23-02:18:32:  Jeff has been dying to say a few words about Metal #1 by Scotty Snyder and Greg Capullo—not just for the majority of this episode but for weeks.  RANT MODE ENGAGED (although it’s really more of a conversation because Graeme himself also has some things to say and some excellent points).
02:18:32-2:25:08: Other things we’ve been waiting to discuss and keep forgetting to:  Graeme really liked Fred Van Lente’s 10 Dead Comedians, a very witty and clever take on Agatha Christie’s And Then There Were None!  Jeff is very grateful he took Graeme’s recommendation and read Reflections: An Oral History of Twin Peaks by Brad Dukes, and is very sad he won’t be able to buy for Graeme the Men Drawstring Waist Twin Peaks Owl Cave Map Shorts for Men!
2:25:08-end: Closing comments! Look for us on  Stitcher! Itunes! Twitter together and separately: Graeme and Jeff! MattTumblr,  and  on Patreon where a wonderful group of people make this all possible, including the kind crew at American Ninth Art Studios and Empress Audrey, Queen of the Galaxy, to whom we are especially grateful for their continuing support of this podcast.
Next week:  Wait, What? Ep. 233!  Due to Jeff’s semi-annual pilgrimage, it will be up later than usual—look for it by Thursday, September 14!

 

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It’s been awhile since I’ve done one of these. In that time I read Secret Empire #9, Captain America #25, and Secret Empire #10, which wraps up the main thrust of the event. They were…uninspiring, at best. (I also read all of the U.S.Avengers tie-in issues, which were absolutely great in all the ways the main books weren’t–fun and thoughtful and character-driven and interesting. Graeme covered some of why over on the tumblr, if you’re curious, but it feels outside my whiny, dreary remit here.)

I’ve made a bunch of complaints about the series here before, and I don’t feel particularly compelled to just repeat them in a general sense. Instead, I’ll point at a few specific examples from issues #9-10 that seemed particularly disappointing.

First, though: I came into Secret Empire by way of trying to understand what had people so worked up about Hydra Captain America, which we all–including most of the people who objected to HydraCap–knew was going to be reversed. Now that we’ve seen the ending of that story, the outcry seems even more pointless to me. It was a toothless version of a familiar trope, resolved even more toothlessly, barely worthy of acknowledgement by the book’s readers, let alone by outside critics.

But enough about that, for now. On to some more concrete issues, after the jump. (TOTAL SPOILERS, obviously.)

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0:00-50:13: Greetings! We are right into it because we have a lot to talk about! Because Dan Coyle demanded it, we are going to talk about the entire run of Star Brand from the 1980s.  But first!  Jeff has to talk about The Defenders. the eight episode miniseries on Netflix that is the culmination of Marvel and Netflix’s strategy for the last three years.  Full spoilers as Jeff vents, decries,  and bemoans the experience.  SPOILERS for the full series as we discuss not only it, but the two seasons of Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, a little bit of Iron Fist, the Inhumans IMAX flick, and even the Punisher trailer (see above).

50:13-1:03:11: Also, on Netflix: an American adaptation of genuine manga classic Death Note directed by Adam Wingard!  While less worthy of Jeff’s ire, it has some very interesting adaptation choices he cannot stop fixating on, and so I guess it seemed like a really good idea to share with you here?  (It beats livetweeting, I guess?)  (Lakeith Stanfield, tho!)
1:03:11-2:09:31:  But then finally…there was nothing else for us to do but finally discuss Star Brand, Jim Shooter’s flagship title for his burgeoning New Universe line back in 1986.  Fortunately[?] for us, all of Shooter’s issues, as well as the follow-up stories by various writers until John Byrne steps in to steer the book from issue #11 until its end, are collected in two trades by Marvel, and we are here to talk about *all* of it.  Discussed:  Jim Shooter and his remarkable take on morality and sex, the difference between supporting characters who seem based on real people and people who don’t, Bobbie Chase’s amazing annual, the “rules” of the New Universe, The Greatest American Hero, South Park, The Pitt, and much, much more.
2:09:31-2:33:10: So much more, in fact, that Graeme has supplemental material about the New Universe, including an overview of Spitfire and the Troubleshooters, a fun fact about Strikeforce: Morituri, the Quasar epilogue issue, and of course…much, much more.  And then…
2:33:10-end: Closing comments! Look for us on  Stitcher! Itunes! Twitter together and separately: Graeme and Jeff! MattTumblr,  and  on Patreon where a wonderful group of people make this all possible, including the kind crew at American Ninth Art Studios and Empress Audrey, Queen of the Galaxy, to whom we are especially grateful for their continuing support of this podcast.
Next week:  Wait, What? Ep. 232!  Look for it on Labor Day U.S.A., Monday!
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